07-16-2017 12:20 PM
07-16-2017 12:28 PM
07-16-2017 12:29 PM
Yep. That'd pin it down Bilim.
I'm inclined to leave that test to someone else though. With my setup working perfectly on Automation Manager I'm reluctant to fix something that's not broken!
My only use for the Belkin app is to log new WeMos onto my LAN.
Anyway SteveP, you're fairly safe in the knowledge that if you need to reinstall the Belkin WeMo app your rules will be restored just fine and there's no need to make a backup of them although for such a backup you'd need to be using a pencil and paper!
07-16-2017 12:34 PM
I seem to recall that all rules are stored in all the WeMos Bilim.
Even if the rule does not apply to them specifically. If so then we are still at a loss to know if they are in the cloud too as they will restore completely from any single WeMo.
07-16-2017 12:40 PM
07-16-2017 01:05 PM
I reckon MikeP would know. Perhaps he'll post when he's next online.
To reiterate though Steve, there's no need for a rules backup and you won't lose them if you reinstall the Belkin app. Sorry to hijack your thread a bit, but I hope you've found the diversion interesting!
07-16-2017 02:03 PM
07-17-2017 09:00 PM
From what I could see last time I looked that the entire rules db was sent to and later loaded from every available wemo as Peter mentioned. Perhaps belkin has also decided to keep a copy in the app. Hopefully 'cause the loading time and number of failures loading from the wemos seem to give many users fits. First I've heard that they might keep a copy in the cloud as well.
To be honest I'm skeptical 'cause reconciling all of the copies can be tricky as soon as any copy was out of sync. These designers weren't experienced enough to prevent sql injection (a pretty standard security hole) and reconciliation is an even bigger challenge. And we know that team struggled with time and timezone problems as well so timestamps could be a problem if used to reconcile. Maybe ok in minor conflicts but a catastrophic loss or multiple conflicts could be an issue.
I suspect if you reset all the wemos and reinstall the app the rules will be gone, I don't believe they'll recover back from the cloud though I suppose anything is possible. Pen and paper backups might be wise...